[Existing Clients-Only] – Utilizing you policy

Due to the sensitivity of the information, we have limited the content in this section for existing clients so you can have a better understanding of how to maintain your policy!

Lane’s IBC Tracker Sheet

Lane’s script on what to ask the Life Insurance company when he has extra money:

I noticed that the website’s dashboard display is confusing and often the life insurance companies are not consistent in how they display information. Therefore I tend to be old fashion and like to verify things with a human person. Here is what I typically will ask:

1) Am I able to make a payment to my premiums or PUA?

2) Are there any outstanding loans that I could pay off?

3) How much is the max loan that I can take out (cash value)?

Guardian Portal Walkthrough – Setting up Payments and Requesting a Loan

In case you missed it in previous sections, see below on policy funding priorities and how loan interest is calculated:

Policy Funding Priorities

How Loan Interest is Calculated

Determining Your Remaining PUA Amount Before Reaching Your MEC Limit

Making Money Between Your Life Insurance Policy and Your LLC

As long as an expense is reasonable and necessary for you to pursue business revenue for example taking a loan to make more money in another business endeavor you should be able to deduct the expense as a business expense. It is best practice to be able to “trace” expenses so you can deduct the business interest. Similarly remember in 2020 when everyone was taking 100k withdraws from your 401k… it was best practice to have a clean line of “tracing” between what you took out of the 401k and where the money went for which was supposed to be used for some “covid hardship” and boy was that list of unnamed reasons large. With business interest expenses that might come from lending money from a buddy at 10%, 6% from your HELOC, 4% from your mortgage note, or 5% from your IBC you “should” have the same type of (at the very least loose) tracing so you can show a clean usage of the funds – incase the event of an audit which is very low likelihood of happening. Most people will nod our heads and know exactly what do because we don’t sweat the small stuff and are not worried about any audit because in essence we know we are not doing anything illegal, others will get catch up with this technicality and spend their time making this line super clear. Experience share… every year in January, I send an email to my life insurance company requesting the amount of interest that I use as my tax backup since a lot of times the life insurance company will not issue any tax form with the interest paid. I then take a note to the PDF and say some reason where the money went to like “Huntsville Country Club April 2022” just like how I scribble the name of the person I went to lunch with on my receipt as I deduct it as a business expense. This is not legal/tax advice, seek the counsel of your CPA/Attorney but beware they will charge you for the advise and often side on the cautious side.

Note 1: Notice (if I am ever audited) I have a consistent processes (If I wanted to be an over-achiever) I probably should have documented SOPs for this but I have better things to do with my time). Note 2: There is common confusion over writing things off and not having an “active business”. My legal team tells me that active or non dealer or passive LP holdings only… you have a business (which is an entity…. EVEN if you do not have any LLC (in which case you are a sole proprietor business). LLC are legal entities that have nothing to do with taxes – its for asset protection. Of course your business needs to make income or investment returns as a passive investor (ideally not have a huge negative before depreciation) so if you are not maximizing the expenses running then through you business you are leaving a lot of deductions/tax-savings on that table.

What kinds of investments would be best to use with ibc since you do have interest on the loan. 

That depends on you. Ultimately this is a reflection on where your mindset is. And this is where you need to get into a peer group where we see it as simply an arbitrage. If you are paying 5% in your IBC (some utilizing a 3% CVLOC – FOOM Hack) then as long as you are making 5% plus… its game on. Again it’s up to your personal discretion and why you need to discuss this with other people in your position as opposed to those stuck forever in the cubicle with their 401ks and paying off their homes. Back to your question, what “I do” is very different… I personally leave my money in my CV to keep cash reserves for earnest money for apartments as I am the general partner who fills cash gaps for our LPs. Specifically, where I might need to put out 250k at a moment’s notice incase we need liquidity in the deal – those with operational business might use their CV in a similar manner. Most of our clients are not entrepreneurs so that is likely not your case and you do not need carry that need for large sums of liquidity. Most people with a good salary and JOB will find something like pref equity, AHP, or Ex- blockfi (that was an option pre-FTX débâcle), or regular equity and invest 100% of their CV and make money off the arbitrage and that is how you transcend where regular people get financially.